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Although i’ve A closet full of decks, I have reserve these lovely boxes for my historical decks...so far, I own four historical deck.
You can read the Soprafino just like a regular Marseille. Personally, I've found that the Soprafino works best when I don't plan on doing a lot of regarding/facing/figure interaction in the reading. The uniformity of the basic Marseille makes it superior for that kind of thing. The Soprafino is my go-to when I'm planning on doing major-minor pairs.CharlotteK wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 11:27 Interesting, thanks! I'm throwing myself into TdM studies now but also have two new historical decks - Soprafino and Vachetta - that I have no idea how to read so I like that she calls this reading with historical decks and hope it can help.
thanks victoria, i will love to read this one! you are so lucky to have it, i searched everywhere but there is nowhere i can order it online before september 28..... and since i live in the netherlands i have no barnes and noble nearby.....BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 04:35 Greetings Tarot Tribe,
I popped into Barnes and Noble this evening and found this little gem. Caitlin shared on another site that it should be out by September so please imagine my delight when I walked in for no particular reason and this item was the first thing I saw. So far I am only into the Preface but she shares an experience with which I am sure we are all familiar. I will let you find out for yourselves.
Have a wonderful evening!
Victoria
same here, victoria! i have a lot of reproductions of ancient decks, i love it when they have their own system that is different from TdM, and i would love to explore them further. i have some of giordano berti’s decks, like the vergnano, perrin, oriental and mitelli, i love the minchiates with all their extra cards (i have two of them), the tarot of paris, and sullivan hisman’s budapest and rosenwald..... and of course i have some meneghello’s as well.BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 14:38 It is difficult to express the wild enthusiasm I now have for these old decks. Even my children have commented it. I was pretty enthusiastic about modern tarot but they say (and I feel) that my enthusiasm is on an entirely new level.
Victoria
Stronglove, yes! I think studying the book together and applying it to our great variety of decks would be so fun. And she does say in her book that the teachings within will help one to read any ancient Tarot. My ancient deck collection is still small. I have the Pierre Madenié of 1709 Lyon by Yves Reynard, the Dodal by Flornoy, The Il Meneghello Della Rocca (Soprafino) and the CBD TDM. The Basacon is next on my list and then the Bacchus or the Noblet.stronglove wrote: ↑22 Jul 2018, 14:58
same here, victoria! i have a lot of reproductions of ancient decks, i love it when they have their own system that is different from TdM, and i would love to explore them further. i have some of giordano berti’s decks, like the vergnano, perrin, oriental and mitelli, i love the minchiates with all their extra cards (i have two of them), the tarot of paris, and sullivan hisman’s budapest and rosenwald..... and of course i have some meneghello’s as well.
my last acquisition was the vandenborre bacchus or flemish tarot with the spanish captain as the high priestess and bacchus as the pope.....
wouldn’t it be great to read caitlin’s book together, then read with our different decks and share our experiences?
) if i had, i would, but alas.... what is the flornoy book and who wrote it?Charlie Brown wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 15:59 Thanks for whetting my appetite with those pics. I ordered mine on Book Depository but it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks for anything from them to reach me out here.
Do I remember that you have the English translation of the Flornoy book? Could you maybe also post three pages or so so I could get a feel for it? Maybe either on Le Pendu or Judgement? I feel like I don't really need a $50 book that's another semi-esoteric collection of majors essays, but I get the feeling that it won't be available for very long, so this is likely the only chance to get it.
Oh... for some reason I thought that Victoria was the one who posted the pictures. I quoted her here so she'll see. The Flornoy book is by Flornoy the deck restorer (recently deceased) who puts out the Flornoy Noblet and Flornoy Dodal. He has a book out that has recently been translated into English. What I'm gathering is that it's a fine book in and of itself, but it's basically esoteric tarot, which is almost all of what we get in the US, and not the European Cartomantic stuff like in Caitlin Matthews. It's an expensive book with the shipping from Europe, so I doubt it's worth it considering how much good esoteric work is already available in English. BUT...Flornoy does know TdM, so if it really is something different and special I don't want to miss it.BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 04:35 Greetings Tarot Tribe,
I popped into Barnes and Noble this evening and found this little gem. Caitlin shared on another site that it should be out by September so please imagine my delight when I walked in for no particular reason and this item was the first thing I saw. So far I am only into the Preface but she shares an experience with which I am sure we are all familiar. I will let you find out for yourselves.
Have a wonderful evening!
Victoria
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you mean the flornoy book? please let us know what it is like, and maybe post some pages, like charliebrown suggested.BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2018, 01:13 @stronglove, I currently await this book with great anticipation.
Charliebrown, this may indeed be something pretty special. As an artist, who I believe used actual pear blacks and hand stenciled paint to create his cards, he truly has a different take on these cards. I will share more as I learn more. My items arrived within two weeks and the cost for shipping and product was in euros and much less costly than if I had ordered from the UK.Charlie Brown wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 18:43Oh... for some reason I thought that Victoria was the one who posted the pictures. I quoted her here so she'll see. The Flornoy book is by Flornoy the deck restorer (recently deceased) who puts out the Flornoy Noblet and Flornoy Dodal. He has a book out that has recently been translated into English. What I'm gathering is that it's a fine book in and of itself, but it's basically esoteric tarot, which is almost all of what we get in the US, and not the European Cartomantic stuff like in Caitlin Matthews. It's an expensive book with the shipping from Europe, so I doubt it's worth it considering how much good esoteric work is already available in English. BUT...Flornoy does know TdM, so if it really is something different and special I don't want to miss it.BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 04:35 Greetings Tarot Tribe,
I popped into Barnes and Noble this evening and found this little gem. Caitlin shared on another site that it should be out by September so please imagine my delight when I walked in for no particular reason and this item was the first thing I saw. So far I am only into the Preface but she shares an experience with which I am sure we are all familiar. I will let you find out for yourselves.
Have a wonderful evening!
Victoria
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Charliebrown, I am so sorry. I did not see this until now. Which card would you like me to photograph the pages for? Le Pendu (that tried to auto correct to Le pendulum...how neat since the character on the card is basically a pendulum) or judgment?Charlie Brown wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 15:59 Thanks for whetting my appetite with those pics. I ordered mine on Book Depository but it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks for anything from them to reach me out here.
Do I remember that you have the English translation of the Flornoy book? Could you maybe also post three pages or so so I could get a feel for it? Maybe either on Le Pendu or Judgement? I feel like I don't really need a $50 book that's another semi-esoteric collection of majors essays, but I get the feeling that it won't be available for very long, so this is likely the only chance to get it.
oh, wow, where are you going to buy that one? i’m sure you are going to love it! i got mine a couple of weeks ago and it is awesome. i got it from game if hope lenormand, it even has an extra hanged man, so i got one upside down, as if he is going to step out of tha card, and one in the traditional position....BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 08:25 Also, I sit here scratching my head and wondering how this group will ever manage to help one another to NOT kill our budgets buying books and decks. I just received the Noblet and a book by Jean-Claude Flornoy...ly vey. I’m also at the top of a waitlist to buy the Vandenborre Bacchus by Pablo Robledo, an item I am told is as rare as El Pape’s poop. I don’t even know if I like that deck...lol!
Well, I'd be grateful for anything, but I HAVE been thinking about The Sun over the past few days. Maybe that.BreathingSince72 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 09:23Charliebrown, I am so sorry. I did not see this until now. Which card would you like me to photograph the pages for? Le Pendu (that tried to auto correct to Le pendulum...how neat since the character on the card is basically a pendulum) or judgment?Charlie Brown wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 15:59 Thanks for whetting my appetite with those pics. I ordered mine on Book Depository but it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks for anything from them to reach me out here.
Do I remember that you have the English translation of the Flornoy book? Could you maybe also post three pages or so so I could get a feel for it? Maybe either on Le Pendu or Judgement? I feel like I don't really need a $50 book that's another semi-esoteric collection of majors essays, but I get the feeling that it won't be available for very long, so this is likely the only chance to get it.
Hi stronglove! To answer your question I received my Vandenborre Bacchus by Pablo Robledo last week from collectarot.com. I pushed my luck when I saw that Pablo was a member of one of my social groups and asked if there might be some obscure shop in some corner of the world that might be carrying some copy of Le papes poop. He referred me to Bob at CollecTarot & Books.stronglove wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 15:57 oh, wow, where are you going to buy that one? i’m sure you are going to love it! i got mine a couple of weeks ago and it is awesome. i got it from game if hope lenormand, it even has an extra hanged man, so i got one upside down, as if he is going to step out of tha card, and one in the traditional position....
here are some of my favorite cards. i love the hanged man’s tiny hands and all the faces and eyes on the devil.
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