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Any "Mad Men" fans here?

I was wondering if we might channel our inner Don Drapers and Peggy Olsens and see if we can come up with some “taglines” to help encourage people to buy decks directly from artists and otherwise avoid buying counterfeit tarot decks.

There are so many talented artists here, and I thought it might be fun if we come up with some taglines and slogans, then you guys could put together some fun beautiful graphics that could be posted to instagram and twitter etc.

The same slogan could be rendered a million different ways only limited by your creativity and imaginations (so...unlimited!) and it would be such a fun, positive and powerful way to get our message out.

The taglines should be positive, not scolding, and focus on using the decks as opposed to buying them. We want to encourage positive behavior, as opposed to scolding bad behavior. They should be short and to the point. Extra points if they are funny!

So for example: “Real Tarot Readers Use Real Tarot Decks” – something like that. Think of all the ways that idea could be rendered.
Once we get some slogans together the artists can jump in and start doing their thing.

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We can make all the images available in a central resource and we can all have access to them and use them on our social media.
Encouraging the buyers to buy authentic decks is one big piece of the effort to stem the proliferation of counterfeit decks. We have so much creative talent here, there’s no reason we couldn’t do some really professional looking Ads and PSA’s.

Eventually it would be great to have a dedicated website to direct people to for more information but for now just showing the value of our community and its talent is a big first step toward changing buyer behavior.

Counterfeit decks are a huge issue in our community. Raising awareness and changing buyer behaviour is one very important part of tackling this problem. I am promoting this over in a facebook group as well dedicated to finding solutions. I will share your slogans over there and vice-versa. I figure, we might as well have fun with this, no?

So, contribute your taglines and slogans here. We’ll compile them and then the artists can start in.
I’m soooo excited to see what all your ideas and the beautiful ways you imagine bringing those words to life!

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Think of the artists...

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I can think only in terms of scolding...


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"He tried to cheat us with fake cards!" "And what happened to him?" "Cut the thread, and you'll know"


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I like this Nemia but I have to admit I don't understand it. Cut the thread?
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I believe "cut the thread" means "kill the mother fucker"

As for my first take, I like, as the kids were wont to say:

Keeping it Real.
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Offering just a slogan idea. I intend both lines, but the second line could work by itself.

If it's counterfeit, it'll make you spit.
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JayBee wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 17:11 If it's counterfeit, it'll make you spit.
This could go a lot of interesting ways with another word that rhymes with spit! :lol:
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Nemia wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 15:16 I can think only in terms of scolding...

"He tried to cheat us with fake cards!" "And what happened to him?" "Cut the thread, and you'll know"


Brilliant, and classy.......I keep trying to come up with something, but my wit is too acid :twisted:

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Papageno wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 17:31 I keep trying to come up with something, but my wit is too acid :twisted:
A bit of acid wit could add some spice!
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I love me some Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford as Mommy Dearest-

But we're trying to stay away from the scolding messages, or threats of the law. Those things never change anyone's behaviour. I went to Catholic school. I know what I'm talking about. Tell us we're bad and we just embrace it. :lol:

The idea is to let artists using their skills sort of win-over people who are making choices when they purchase. And make you think about why would you want a crappy fake deck anyway?

I'm looking really for some slogans, taglines that artists can work with. Like one slogan could be rendered 20 ways, think like Coke-It's the Real Thing (not bad by the way...) 1 slogan that launched 1000 separate images.
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I'm sorry JM, but I told you my humor is too acid, this is my last post.....I promise.



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Alright, on a more positive note, this is kinda like an episode out of the old TV series "Bewitched".
Darren Stephens at the advertising firm of McMann & Tate.

"Buy the best and read with the best"

Simple and succinct.

Of course, a slogan like this would be more effective if it were touted by a known and respected member of the Tarot community.

The inference of course being, you buy legitimate decks (the best) and read with the best, implying that you not only purchase a legitimate deck, but you're also in the company of some of the most established and respected readers and authors, such as Rachel Pollack, Benebell Wen, Mary K. Greer, Joan Bunning, Barbara Moore, and other luminaries of the community.
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I dont think we are quite up to celebrity endorsements yet.

But slogans are good!

And if possible, as I said in the original post, I'd like to focus more on using the decks more than on buying them. Buying is a short transaction, some clicks and a delivery. But then a deck is part of your actual life. I want to make people think about how they feel with their cards.


The artists will have their fun and come up with all kinds of images.

I know you guys have ideas!
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An idea that came to me very early this morning... :D

It needs some adjustment - he has really shifty eyes but you can't see that at this size... And I forgot his tail...! (Done...)

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Well, the cartoon is about buying rather than using I'm afraid, but if we can help discourage people buying from the rip off merchants that has to be a good thing.
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Fake cards can't tell the truth.

It's simple as that. I don't know how to turn that into a positive message.

And the three Fates spin, measure and cut the thread of life. :-)
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These are all good. I'm trying to get a mix of messages to hit on different levels so these will all work.

I do like this one about fake cards tell lies. There's a lot of ways you could say that and express it visually and it really speaks to living with the cards you buy.

Real Readers Don't Use Fake Cards

These are all great.

The 3 Fates one is really nice, went over my head but people who get it will love it!
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Sorry Joan Marie, but fake cards can be horribly accurate... ;)


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English: Still from the American drama film The Fortune Teller (1920) with Marjorie Rambeau and an unidentified actor, on page 70 of the June 5, 1920 Exhibitors Herald.
Date 5 June 1920
Source Exhibitors Herald (Apr. - Jun. 1920) on the Internet Archive
Author Albert Capellani Productions / Robertson-ColeThe Fortune Teller.
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Pen wrote: 08 Jul 2020, 10:43 fortune_teller3.jpg

Sorry Joan Marie, but fake cards can be horribly accurate... ;)
This is great!! I love it!!
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In the next day or so, I'm going to put all these together into a place where they can be accessed by people who want to use them in their social media to help promote buying real decks. I need to work out a couple of details first like a really good catchy hashtag (or 2) that can be used with the post.

There is a whole group of deck creators over at facebook who are ready for all of this. I'm expecting some more ideas and art from them and hopefully from here as well.

Your creativity and enthusiasm is so great. Combined with some other things being worked on regarding online shops that sell counterfeits and manufacturers who abet the thieves, (including naming the manufacturers that can be trusted) We might just be able to start making a dent in this.

Seriously these ads help because there are a lot of people who don't realise they are buying fakes and a lot of people who don't realise that fakes are not okay, or that they are sub-standard quality. Hard-core thieves won't be moved, but a lot of people will be.

You guys are doing great!! ❤️
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I must stop...

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Thomas Cartwright - This image is available from the National Library of Wales You can view this image in its original context on the NLW Catalogue.
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I have deleted this image because elements of the image are inappropriate and in conflict with copyright law, which is the whole point of this thread.

My bad. Pretty stupid eh.
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Source: The oil sketch of Andromeda and the pirate was created from:
- 3199 (OK) - Museum Boijmans Van Beuningen.jpg
Created: 1636 [/quote]

...and an illustration by Howard Pyle:
The Buccaneer was a Picturesque Fellow: illustration of a pirate, dressed to the nines in piracy attire. The oil painting, which the illustration was of, was sold in 1905 under the title The Buccaneer and is currently part of the Delaware Art Museum's collection.[1]
Date 1905
Source Pyle, Howard; Johnson, Merle De Vore (ed) (1921) "Captain Scarfield" in Howard Pyle's Book of Pirates: Fiction, Fact & Fancy Concerning the Buccaneers & Marooners of the Spanish Main, New York, United States, and London, United Kingdom: Harper and Brothers, pp. Plate facing p. 196

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Omf! @Pen & @Papageno I'm Big Fan of Your Vintage Antypiracy Posters You Should Make full deck!xD lol
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